Chicken House,dual rate is more (obviously) and includes FI cost and landing and the +10 mins is stuck on top !
My whole point is the time stated was from start to stop no "clipping" times and don't think it fair to charge if the tacho may be slow !
Hobbit,flown there for 14 years and far to big to fly local ultralights,its only in the past year or so this has come into force.
And No Sam its not published and from what I have seen nobody questions it and just pays up.