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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 10:24
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DaveReidUK
 
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Originally Posted by T250
To get to this assumption you are assuming:
1. Captain knew they were in grass, didn't care and intended to power out. There is no such evidence of this.

2. The ground crew/headset man actually admitted to the Captain he'd pushed him into the grass and therefore do not request taxi, don't move.
There is no such evidence of this.

3. In the absence of the above happening, how is Captain to know he's in the grass without an admission from ground crew or other external reference (ATC, other aircraft, passengers in cabin). Seems the ground crew did the push, then did nothing when it went wrong and just pi$$ed off as if nothing had happened!

4. It seems that there is ATC evidence/recording of another EZY company reporting over the R/T to the Captain in question something along the lines of 'are you aware you're in the grass'.
In light of this evidence, the Captain has obviously NOT been told by anyone else with external reference that the aircraft was in fact in the grass.
If you're pushing straight back from Stand 555 (Stand 56, as was) in an A320 then once your bum is over the centreline of Twy Q, your wheels are on the grass, no argument:



In the captain's defence, had it been Stand 554 then we wouldn't be having this debate. Likewise, if the flight had been op by an A319, we probably wouldn't either.
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