LJ, you missed out 2 of the other great money pits: Regional Prime Contracting where a single organisation gets to look after the estate and charge £350 to change a light bulb that the SWO's gang would do for nothing as part of their role. The second is the mandated use of HRG for travel and accommodation bookings. HRG regularly cost Defence much more than is necessary for these services. My last second-class return train fare to London cost £185 through HRG; I could have purchased a first-class return on the day for £45. Then there's air travel, which, by the time you've got 2* approval has trebled in cost. I am fed up of challenging these issues and being told that Defence gets a good deal. Well, somebody in Defence gets a good deal, or perhaps one of their relatives does.