Originally Posted by
ATC Watcher
This accident report is extremely interesting , especially beyond the 130 first pages.
If you are 35 knots slow on final, you fail your check ride.
If you are 30 knots slow on final, you fail your check ride
If you are 25 knots slow on final, you fail your check ride
If you are 20 knots slow on final, you fail your check ride
If you are 15 knots slow on final, you fail your check ride.
And you really fail your check ride if you get into those conditions on final and 1) you don't act to correct it and 2) you don't initiate a go around before you get to 35+ knots slow on final. That a training captain was in one of the seats is deeply disturbing from the PoV of the system and culture in that airline. I appreciate Mr Sumwalt's points on how the pilots ended up in a situation where they failed their check ride with a plane full of passengers, in terms of training and culture. There is certainly an element of habits that will hopefully be addressed in that company.
This accident, however, is from a significantly different organizational set up and culture. Asiana is a major airline with some depth. This company, LaMia, was small and has/had no depth. From an organizational aspect, they were more vulnerable to any problems in culture, training, and habits. Fewer opportunities for the 'system' to catch aberration.