Thanks for that, Fidgell. It's strange that you mention the Pakistani Jumbos.
One of the lowest I've seen was a Jum., it was LOW and it seamt to be struggling to make any height, and was still quite low when it passed out of my site at the far east end of town.
But, I don't know if it was Pakistani or not, the sun was glaring on its side when it was near me, and it was too far away when it turned slightly.
As you say, it is going to be interesting when Finningly gets up and running. Watch this airspace!
Again, thanks for the info.
N.Z.