Slow Biker, with the greatest respect you have already added much value, simply by accepting the truth of what is being said. A few here endured much criticism when these failures were first raised, many repeating the MoD line that such things could never happen. Now, dare I say it, it is only a few hard liners who refuse to accept the facts laid bare before Haddon-Cave and Lord Philip. It is often better to read the evidence before trying to refute it. Especially when it is in MoD's own hand! I don't make accusations here, simply note MoD's own statements in an attempt to explain accidents like this. Very unoriginal I'm afraid.