Okay, okay, I'll stay with it, but really, I don't think I can add much to the conversation. I'm on the same side as you and tuc and I understand how safety has been eroded by VSOs and their drive for budget cuts and then turning a blind eye to the inevitable results. Reading some of the learned posts on this site has made me think how poorly I was trained (!) and prepared for the role I undertook; I had to work it out as I went along, just making sure I didn't do anything stupid. I suppose that fits in with many of the arguments you both make.
Gotta go now for the unbiased Brexit argument on Question Time!