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Old 25th Sep 2016, 04:07
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The training is, and must be, relevant to the positions to be filled
One would think the word `relevant’ (bearing upon or connected with the matter in hand; pertinent) is highly descriptive, accurate and specific particularly when related to the word `positions’ when the positions to be filled is that of pilots including pilots to fly a particular aircraft.
it would certainly be held as such within a court of law.

What other countries do or say is totally irrelevant to what applies under Australian Legislation within Australia; the discussion is about protection of Australian employment and Australians entitlement to this employment.

I, and others, are well aware there are agreements in place with other countries providing work arrangements for non-Australians to work here (NZ is another) however, these all have detailed and specific reasons for these to be in place. They all have specific restrictions, rules and arrangements totally applicable to each and every one of these.

Again, this is irrelevant to this discussion.

Why would any company train cooks or baggage handlers so they can employ pilots?

Is the training of cooks, baggage handler and counter clerks `relevant’ to pilot requirements?
Many of the cooks, baggage handler and counter clerks are no longer employed by the airlines the work/employees being contracted out.

Again, highly irrelevant.

“457 Visa Obligations:
Sponsor obligations
Sponsorship obligations apply to all sponsors of subclass 457 visa holders. They are in place to ensure that overseas skilled workers are protected from exploitation, and that the subclass 457 visa programme is being used to meet genuine skills shortages, and not to undercut local labour wages and conditions.
Some obligations apply beyond the term of sponsorship approval.
As a sponsor you must:
• cooperate with inspectors
ensure equivalent terms and conditions of employment
• keep records
• provide records and information to the Minister
• tell us when certain events occur
ensure the visa holder participates in the nominated occupation, program or activity
• not recover from, transfer or charge certain costs to another person
• pay travel costs to enable sponsored people to leave Australia
• pay costs to remove unlawful non-citizens
provide training to Australians and permanent residents
• not engage in discriminatory recruitment practices.

• Provide training to Australians and permanent residents

If you are a standard business sponsor and you lawfully operated a business in Australia at the time you were approved as a standard business sponsor (or at the time you had your terms of approval varied). You must contribute to the training of Australians by:
• spending an equivalent of at least two per cent of your payroll in payments to an industry training fund that operates in the same industry as you; or
• spending an equivalent to at least one per cent of your payroll in the provision of training to employees of your business who are Australian citizens or Australian permanent residents.

The obligation begins on the day you are approved as a sponsor. You must meet this obligation in each 12 month period within which you employ a sponsored visa holder (including if the sponsored visa holder is not employed by you for the full twelve months). Where your approval as a standard business sponsor is varied, you must meet the training requirement if you employ one or more primary sponsored persons.”
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