Qualified as an RN pilot in 1967, was never an engineer but served as a SHAR MTP for some 10 years and was UTP at VL for several. Not sure what the argument is.
PS. Last SHAR trip was a PRL air test that ended with frozen pitch control (or lack of!). Booger! Gott sei dank für the nozzle lever. Still found myself straining to pull the nose up even though the stick wouldn't move; Hey-Ho! No-one died! Swing the lamp.