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Old 24th Aug 2016, 16:00
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UAV689
 
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A massive load of out of date and nonsense here...as usual!

New cadets at Ryan are all paid via storm contract (the new and improved Brookfield......) which means after the sim duductions of 4.50e per hr you are paid <500 hrs on type 50.50e, after 500hrs on type (about 7 months on line) 65.5e, and after 1500hrs 70.5e. Full time Ryan contracts vary by base and country, and the storm contract is paid that rate regardless of base. Once eligible for upgrade you can get 8e an hr extra, and any out of base you get additional 20e per schedule block hr. All pay is schedule block, so when the French strike and your on ground with a slot it's all unpaid...

Tr cost, 29500e. Also need to factor in rent+food for about 8 weeks. All unpaid.

After training, for around 20 sect max you will have safety pilot, so no pay, but this is normally only a week. During line training pay is about 30e per hr, for about 80-90 sectors.

Hrs vary by base, STN/dub is always busy, 800-850per yr. smaller bases vary, and in the winter these smaller bases chop and change very quickly so not ideal. The canaries is a good one, with all days being around 8hr block, you work 10 days a month down there.

Tax. You are now forced to use their nominated accountants. Each have their pros and cons, but they are more legit than in past, which means people are paying social security as an employer and employee...MOL likes to shirk his responsibilities on social security...while you have expenses you can work tax free, for around 18month - 2yrs. Or, pay some small tax and drag expenses out longer. Some FO's whilst on the expenses train clear 6k e a month. After expenses used up, in uk expect to lose 35-40% to tax.

Holiday pay, none as contractor, one month unpaid leave to be taken as one, and 10 days to take unpaid as you wish. Can be hard to get approved. Sick pay, zero.

Pros, if based at home, great roster, otherwise get used to commuting. Most people get base of choice eventually, at the moment due to crew shortages people get bases very quick. Quick upgrade, option to work in sim as an fo and become a tri, secondments on to Learjet fleet if that takes your fancy, lots of experience very quickly due to network and high hrs rosters. Lots of opportunities to become ltc when upgraded if that is your thing. Well maintained fleet. Cons, contractor status, fear of tax man coming knocking, no protections, no sick pay, lots of unpaid work (everyday during preflight is all unpaid..every turnaround unpaid, every slot unpaid...). Buy your uniform, pay your car parking, pay for your id.

A lot of long timers at Ryan, 20+ yrs, so can't be all that bad.
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