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Old 20th Aug 2016, 15:49
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172 driver, thanks for that, I'm beginning to see that basically both sides see this rather differently. If given a vector and therefore no longer following the STAR, how do you manage speed control and be compliant with the speeds published on the STAR? They have to be complied with without ATC instruction. I am slightly confused though that you just relate this to being on a STAR, no documentation mentions any variances when on a STAR, only SIDs, what happens if you are given instructions before you get to a STAR? Is that different? Finally, you say if given a heading off track then you could shallow your rate as you are going in the wrong direction, does it work the other way where if you were put on a heading that was tracking you on a direct line toward GWC you would increase to meet the FL130 level GWC restriction?

TFC, in today's world that is treated in both ways, some will still keep 250kts, some will think they can now increase as you haven't reiterated the speed restriction. Even more annoying, on the new RNAV STARS there are speed restrictions that only apply for the first few points, however some fly the speed restriction to the end of the STAR, so they have been passing SAM off Gatwick as high as FL270, still doing 250kts
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