So much discussion on other threads regarding EK rosters and fatigued crew and now a 2nd accident happens involving a UAE carrier and the chatter amongst pilots is on auto-throttle and TOGA buttons...are we missing the bigger picture here? The investigations may prove pilot error or system error but it won't quantify the effect of fatigue on the crew to trap the error. EK and FZ pilots have been screaming fatigue and **** rosters for years and nothing has improved. Now two accidents have occured. Fatigue is always a factor. Every airline in UAE has fatiguing rosters. It's the way the entire nation likes to operate. Abuse your workers. So f*** you management for not making any improvements.