Sperm Bank, I'm not in Australia so when I say traffic congestion I'm talking Dubai traffic congestion. Sorry if my comment about some pilots thinking they're the only guy in the sky seemed harsh, but when a pilot reads the entire transmission back and wastes a few precious seconds it does make things more tense than need be. My point was only that if controllers and pilots keep their transmissions clear, concise and correct things run much smoother for all concerned and as such more isn't always better. cheers.