I have to admit, it is a little depressing to talk to fellow pilots in Munich area.
EDMJ, as you appear to know a bit more on the private pilot genocide culture of the region, a question regarding the former(?) field called Fürstenfeldbruck. Is it true that they closed the airfield officially for noise reasons and now installed a BMW test drive ranch for cars and motorcycles? I heard it as a rumor today and couldn't believe it, especially with the guy on the phone laughing.