Hi all,
My understanding, in addition to all the situational awareness problems that were happening during the initial/final moments of this flight, is that the Flight Engineer was the ONLY one that actually knew what going on.
The report I read, stated that the FE called out, repeatedly, "Attitude - Attitude - Attitude ......." all the way to the ground contact, exactly what he is supposed to do, apparently the FO was quite busy with flight path (above the ground) following, ie, departure SID, and comms with the controlling authority, to respond!!
And......er...in my aviation career so far, Avtur IS flammible, if it was inflammable, I would have a real job starting the engines!!!
Cheers