I don’t want to fight megan. Firstly, despite the name I don’t think he’s a girl. Also, he’s probably a lot younger than I am. Finally, I recently suffered an injury in a typing accident.
But back to the argument. At #1187, megan reacts like a frightened octopus. There’s plenty of ink, but no answer to the question. Methinks that the believers should give up on this VMC point and move on to their real argument, which is that the poor captain was led astray by his negligent employerand that he had little inkling of the dangers lurking below the cloud.