MSOCS, I think we're dancing around each-other's point. I'm not trying to make mystic meg style predictions about the future; the point that I'm taking issue with is that there was a concerted effort (maybe) to say the C was off the cards. I think it's weird, and represents an unwelcome level of inflexibility about the future is all. And if (as an accusation) it is true, then I hope it is not politically motivated. That's what I'm getting at. Cheers