Have to agree with Fatty, what little benefit gained from the position is lost on most of us ordinary line trash. I've asked numerous times, at the completion of the mutually respectful and shared goals checking session why don't you resign Mr TRE if training blows worse than a Thai ladyboy, thus far it would appear training has a ways to go to compare to the large handed pretend ladies in Asia, and before anyone asks, no, I have no actual personal experience of said large hands.