@ global_global I think you miss the whole point. What companies like Stratajet are doing (and no I don't work for them) is finally automate a system handled by brokers, who take dozens of man hours to produce the exact same figure Stratajet does in seconds, how is that a bad thing? In my opinion the ability to finally sell empty legs productively using stratajet's model is unique. Your right, before brokers have said "well it's empty from X-Y, that's it", no one else has said "yeah sure, but we will position it from X-A then B-Y, the difference is £xxx". As far as I am aware no one else does this, including avinode, which is a rubbish system and the figure quoted is never near the actual price