TC - you may as well bash your head on a brick wall as expect to get any sense out of Q's supporters.
When this incident happened many people brought up the thorny question of how this trip could be done without being grossly over MAUW. The defence was always "wait until we know the facts before you criticise somebody as experienced as Q".
Well we probably will never know the facts as the two perps have decided it may not be wise to be too forthcoming, but we know enough to be able to do the maths.
If they still think these guys are heroes, then I dont think any amount of effort is going to straighten them out.
