Quadspeed. At first I was offended by your comments, but then on reflection, I realised you were absolutely correct. I am fortunate that i'm at the end of my career, so not much of this matters anymore (other than on principle). The real salient point is for the younger amongst us (40 and below). For them, they need to reasise that they have no 'career' possibility here. All they have is a guaranteed miserable existence of ever degrading conditions. They are the ones who need to heed your comments. Leave now and at least have a chance of a proper career in an area of the world where you can raise a family and enjoy your time off. Staying in HK, with this airline will SURELY lead to desperation and unhappiness.