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Old 1st Jun 2016, 06:17
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You are correct slice. Anyone who thinks differently, is either a private pilot with very little experience or has never attended Crew Resource Management/ Human Factors training.
Agree with you 3 Holer. This accident happened nearly 40 years ago but now we have some instant experts who profess to know exactly what the cause was. Be interesting to know what aviation experience they have that they can make these profound statements.
. . . .. so now it is also clearly established that we must cede to the invincible arguments of those with insights superior to misguided souls such as the late Captain Gordon Vette.
All the above are examples of emotive, vaguely irrelevant passive-aggressive utterings that do nothing to take the argument forwards that are sadly all too predictable from those who hold the views of Mahon/Vette to be sacrosanct.

I think Gordon Vette should be accorded better respect by those who rejected his book and bagged him almost belligerently. Read it before daring to venture an opinion -
I've read it - from cover to cover at least twice, and flicked through it many times in between. What is actually almost laughable about Vette's treatise, is that he passes his theories off as "science" and his investigations "scientific". Nothing could be further from the truth - his assertions regarding mindset, whiteout, optical illusions are simply his theory - nothing more, nothing less. There is no credible science in there at all. That's not to say he is necessarily wrong - but there is nowhere near enough evidence to assert with confidence that he is right. Yet he put forward his theories as though they were gospel - and were accepted by Mahon as such.

Also, Vette's own interpretation of the CVR, full of his own surmising, is nothing but fantasy - but again, presented as reality.

we do not want to get immersed in tortuous debate yet again
Unfortunately - we are doomed to carry this discussion on forever, thanks to Peter Mahon. Because as long as there are newcomers to this pursuit, there will always be those that have to go through the mental process and information gathering that many of us have done here.
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