SEP and MEP revalidations

[Andrew Sinclair]

Just when I thought it was safe to dip my big toe in the pool of JAR-FCL understanding as soon as I do it gets bitten!

Bookworm,

We have a mutual acquaintance who mentioned at dinner the other night that you are excellent at digging out the details so could you explain where I have gone wrong.

You mentioned to Sliding member above that a proficiency check for renewal is no different than a check for revalidation. I was looking at LASORS Section F as I read your post and found the following

F1.4 Revalidation (i.e. The administrative action taken within the validity period of the rating etc etc) may be revalidated by passing a Licensing Proficiency Check (LPC) with an Authorised Flight Examiner (FE(A)) or Class Rating Examiner (CRE(A)).

So if Sliding member completes this before his SEP rating expires, then his rating can be revalidated (he has said he hasn’t been able to complete sufficient flying for the requirements of the experience option)

F1.5 Renewal (i.e. The administrative action taken after the rating has lapsed etc etc etc). Now looking at the < 5 years option it says

i) The CAA will required no mandatory additional training etc etc etc….no problem there, that I understand, but then it says.
ii) Complete the Skills Test in accordance with Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240.

So it would appear that you are saying that the LPC is the same as the Skills Test in accordance with Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240?

If these two things are the same then my question evaporates, but if not I am sure there is a logical explanation to my difference in understanding, have I missed something?

In summary if I have read it correctly the action required in order to revalidate (i.e. admin action before lapse) if a pilot does not meet the experience requirements is to pass the LPC with an FE(A) or CRE(A) within the three months preceeding the expiry date

The action require in order to renew (i.e. admin action after lapse) is completion of "...the Skills Test in accordance with Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240..."

Digging deeper it says that if you are revalidating by flying experience then you must have your Certificate of Revalidation signed within the exisiting expiry period of the rating(s). Failure to do so will result in you having to complete a LPC to renew.

Perhaps that's where the difference is. If Sliding member cannot meet the experience requirements he defaults to the LPC option and if he runs out of time for the LPC option he is into Renewal and a Skills Test defined in Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240.

* Experience BUT out of date signature = LPC
* LPC/signature but rating expired = Skills Test requirement

STOP PRESS

Breaking News (well to me anyway!)..….on further digging it rather looks like the Licensing Proficiency Check (LPC) and the Skills Test are the same thing as defined in Appendix 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240, so my question is answered perhaps. Might be useful, if this is the case, that in a similar way under LASORS F1.5 states “….Skill Test in accordance with Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240….”, LASORS F1.4 could be amended to read “…revalidated by passing a Licensing Proficiency Check (LPC) in accordance with Appendices 1 & 3 to JAR-FCL 1.240…”