I'm just saying, as ever, to call all the miners in the UK "Herberts" is disrespectful and very uncorrect. Amazingly, you may find, if you were ever as so motivated to research the columns of the dead on your local war memorial-you will find a real political cross section of our nation - and believe me they wont all be true blue flag saluter's. We are a true cross dressing humorous nation and long be it.
Got pictures somewhere of March 1944 where the local "Herberts" broke all records for production, around my way- for the national war effort. At a cost in their mates health and lives, of course.
Anyway-up the Republic.