IMHO slightly different: site (address in Plymouth UK) by implication can deceive the unwary into thinking it is an official site - even uses the same green colour as the DVLA site and tries to charge for something we can do for ourselves free of a service charge - a bit like firms offering to pursue PPI claims. My last word on the subject, unless I feel particularly grumpy tomorrow. Mind you PPrune subscribers are all probably old enough to have driving licences anyway, so they are wasting their money - ho, ho!