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Old 10th Apr 2016, 08:42
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Jetscream 32
 
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oh great .. another one coming in June - is that the stellar one?

IMHO there is not many operators that will allow a 3rd party app or company to decide where and when they fly. So matching empty legs to a requirement only comes together if the world is looking in the same place as a community and the empty sector doesn't interfere with original requirement either inbound or outbound. Currently all fairly achievable through avinode or return jet

Trying to build a business or an app on empty legs is utter fantasy and works for a very few people and certainly not the masses, and thinking there is a new market of unknown people is also a bit far fetched. High net worth individuals get their wealth typically through good business decisions and most start from zero and make their way up. Along the way because they are good at what they do, they meet others who have experienced private jets and then sometimes use them - thinking that private jets can now be operated en-masse for £200 a seat is pie in the sky. In the last 20 years, all I've seen is the same process:

1. New guy charters - hmmmm this is nice
2. Charters again next week.... hmmmm this is really nice
3. Speaks to us the following week down route on landing asking about costs of ownership / running etc.
4. Decides he's going to buy one but only if he can mitigate some costs of his own use through charter.
5. Gives to management company
6. Brokers start giving flights / timings and dates always change
7. Business aircraft are "time machines" they are a tool of flexibility and not schedules, the typical person that sits in the back is often time constrained and not flexible in their time - thats why you are flying them, when they are ready then we will try and sort with every trick in the trade to accommodate and get airborne.
8. Any new company that can read the minds of charterers and understand the dynamic schedule changes for flights before and after due to slippage in schedule or change of plan, along with crew rest, owners release, mx issues and the french striking then wow you must be close to god on that one!
9. The divorce papers are filed between him and operator due to lack of hours promised, additional costs he knew nothing about and a bunch of brokers trying to screw the operators whilst he is trying to balance the books of keeping the aircraft on its AOC and retaining crew that are paid a below par salary for the job they do, that is more valuable on the ground dealing with issues and CFMU often more than what is happening in the air, happy to be dicked around like a circus chimp, with talentless and useless management teams that are worse than double glazing salesman all the time expecting us to hurry up and wait.

Yep I can see that your new company in June is going to solve all this overnight.... yipppeeeeeee
But not trying to pour scorn on what you might be doing - no offence intended

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