yes, and we've been in contact with Fenn, we were prepared to buy the actual mount from Fenn in support of a development project we are working on; but the lead time was longer than we could accept; we can reverse engineer it, but with limited data the NRE time and cost is impacting our project schedule. I'm looking for metrics, photos, or even a used/broken pair to purchase, again, I only need the mount, not the optics