To be quite frank BusyB I fail to see how the AOA can get much worse off (as an industrial force) than they are right at this moment. They are in honesty a Club for longer term serving CX pilots with little or no relevance as to their true function. Yes they organise a good insurance (ha ha), or maybe not. They have got an excellent technical representation and attend all sorts of technical forums with good result. They have got some very bright young pilots in their group who are slowly but surely becoming sidelined from affairs at CX. Pity that. The decisions the AOA has made over a long period of time has significantly affected the situation of us all at CX in a very adverse fashion. There is no doubt that most of these decisions were made for the wrong reasons, a lot of emotion and little substance. There are hidden agendas on both sides of the fence and the 49ers are the result. I do feel for the 49ers but am more glad it was not 149ers. Come and get me pit bulls.