oh phulleeeeeze Sub Sonic get real. we wanted to join the AOA but they wouldn't have us. i would still be willing to join but don't think that will happen with the likes of you and BuzzBox running the show. and while we are on the subject of replacement drivers. we were employed and required the same qualifications as you silvertails, so don't cr@p on about Cathay lowering their recruiting standards. the only difference was we were not prepared to be intimidated by a recruitment ban put in place by a misguided and naive union leadership who were prepared to sit back and let command upgrades take place, but considered it poor form for new joiners to replace the positions left from those who took the upgrades from the '49's - disgraceful !