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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 02:02
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SilsoeSid

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Have the UK police fitted cockpit voice recorders and HUMS following the Glasgow crash? It was a AAIB recommendation I believe.
"Safety Recommendations
4.1 Safety Recommendations
The following Safety Recommendations have been made:
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Safety Recommendation 2015-031
It is recommended that, when the Civil Aviation Authority require a radio altimeter to be fitted to a helicopter operating under a Police Air Operator’s Certificate, it also stipulates that the equipment is capable of being powered in all phases of flight, including emergency situations, without intervention by the crew.

Safety Recommendation 2015 - 032
It is recommended that the Civil Aviation Authority requires all helicopters operating under a Police Air Operators Certificate, and first issued with an individual Certificate of Airworthiness before 1 January 2018, to be equipped with a recording capability that captures data, audio and images in crash survivable memory. They should, as far as reasonably practicable, record at least the parameters specified in The Air Navigation Order, Schedule 4, Scale SS(1) or SS(3) as appropriate. They should be capable of recording at least the last two hours of (a) communications by the crew, including Police Observers carried in support of the helicopter’s operation, and (b) images of the cockpit environment. The image recordings should have sufficient coverage, quality and frame rate characteristics to include actions by the crew, control selections and instrument displays that are not captured by the data recorder. The audio and image recorders should be capable of operating for at least 10 minutes after the loss of the normal electrical supply.

Safety Recommendation 2015-033
It is recommended that the Civil Aviation Authority requires all helicopters operating under a Police Air Operators Certificate, and first issued with an individual Certificate of Airworthiness on or after 1 January 2018, to be fitted with flight recorders that record data, audio and images in crash-survivable memory. These should record at least the parameters specified in The Air Navigation Order, Schedule 4, Scale SS(1) or SS(3), as appropriate. They should be capable of recording at least the last two hours of (a) communications by the crew, including Police Observers carried in support of the helicopter’s operation, and (b) cockpit image recordings. The image recordings should have sufficient coverage, quality and frame rate characteristics to include control selections and instrument displays that are not captured by the other data recorders. The audio and image recorders should be capable of operating for at least 10 minutes after the loss of the normal electrical supply.
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The answer to the question is No.

Isn't it something that I have equipment in my car, bought off the shelf from Maplins, that would cover the above recommendations (apart from the Rad Alt).


How many EC135's have crashed since they (the recommendations) were introduced?
Since 23 October 2015 there have been 3 'crashes' involving the 135 series.;
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase...hp?AcType=EC35

Private - Australia
Jordan Public Security Department - Jordan
Bundespolizei - Germany

The only one that the recommendations would apply to, apparently already had the recommended kit fitted. (see Spunk's post above)


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