EVO, Its not Speedbird252 that I am amazed at, he did the correct thing and avoided the ATZ - it's his instructor. The instructor should have briefed Speedbird that permission to cross a MATZ does not imply clearance to penetrate the embedded ATZ. I would also have expected any locally (to Odiham) based instructor to be aware that gliding and motor-gliding takes place at Odiham at weekends.