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Old 6th Feb 2016, 19:49
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sandiego89
 
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Sorry if I'm being dull, but your best to worst lists. I don't understand them.

Are you saying that you think Rafale is superior to F22 at surprising the enemy?
I had a few question on the ranking on his "best" list as well.....

Both Rafale and Typhoon better than the F-22 at surprising?

Do you mean visual (eyeball) only?

Outnumbering? I get you are looking at costs, but that can be irrelevant if you look at how many fighters a force buys and actually fields for an engagement.

Outmaneuvering? Based on what? Knife fight? I think you need to give the F-16 and F-22 some more credit....

Reliable kills? Based on your favorites, or based on proven Air to Air record? I can't recall a kill from many on your list. F-22 last? Really? The F-22 (admittedly no real kills) regularly does very, very well against teen series fighters in exercises, and from what I understand against others on your list as well.

And you also need to factor in the force they fly with. A fighter force with good AWACS, ELINT, tanker and jamming support will have a great advantage.

Leads me to think your list is very Euro-fan centered....
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