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Old 1st Feb 2016, 21:47
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
I can well understand low practiced crews on visual approaches touching down long; but short is a real mystery!
There are several visual illusions that can make it appear one is higher than one actually is, on a visual approach. And thus contact the ground early.

Narrower than "accustomed" runway width, or an upsloped runway, or a high pilot viewpoint (747 being the grossest example).

I don't see an obvious problem with this runway, though. Upslope is only 80 ft/24 meters from 29 threshold to 11 threshold**. It's 148 feet/45 meters wide. Unless other facts emerge, I have to assume the PF was experienced with the "eye-height" of an A340 cockpit.

The only other factor is that this approach is over water (lake) which would remove some visual cues. Or that the PAPI was misaligned.
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** although the slope is not constant - it is concentrated as a "step" in the middle 1/3rd of the runway. See this image from the opposite end.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7011/6...3b9ca227_b.jpg
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