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Old 25th Jan 2016, 19:33
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Pittsextra
 
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ABC - So you can't answer the question about who & what was grasping at straws so you grasp at one yourself and have a pop at me... I'll post on what thread I choose to post upon and whilst you are stalking maybe see the similarity between you and the Yak 52 pilot who when challenged suddenly becomes all personal.

Moving on. Its a tired and typical of a certain generation to wildly thrash about and blame the media for all aviation ills. Actually this media has done great works to uncover many a poor form in our society across generations. John Pilger, World in Action of the past to drugs and corruption in sport or rampant child abuse in more recent times.

So don't call me out on what I post upon or my view when all I asked was why do you view a direct quote from the investigator as grasping at straws.

You try and make smart comments upon I work for the DM or am an accident specialist when you need to be neither to see the obvious points being made, none of them actually need any aviation knowledge what so ever. Shoreham can not be a light bulb moment where people suddenly realise that aircraft traveling at 2,3,400knts eat up a lot of random space if it goes wrong and have a lot of energy. If that is a light bulb moment then we need to change the people who regulate this stuff. I've referred to the World Air Games accident - do you even know what happened there? When you do come and tell us all how much of what seems terrible to you needed any specialist aviation knowledge to prevent.

Of course I don't know what happened at Shoreham, but this is a forum on flying and so its hardy a surprise that people might hold a view. So for example I call the figure a 1/4 clover, most sane people would but for others that is contentious. I think the figure as I've seen it was scruffy, it is clear that the aircraft responds at the end of the figure as the pilot pulls into the buffet prior to crashing. I can only read what the AAIB tell me about starting heights and system abnormalities and control response and form an initial opinion.

When information changes I alter my conclusions.... What do you do? Of course you can choose to say nothing. That is fine, you see nothing, hear nothing, do nothing. If nobody gets hurt in the interim period you can feel good and look smug. The problem is people do get hurt in the interim period and the human factors (many known to some months ago) in this case are of more importance to more people (for example) than the quality of ejection seats in civilian aircraft.
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