Drifting back to White Waltham, after I had completed my Flying Scholarship at Sywell in July 61, I left school in summer 62 and worked 6 days a week in Sainsburys in Eastcote so I could fly on the 7th. I went to WLAC at WW and joined. The CFI took pity on me (and my Dad) and the deal was I would be dropped off on a Monday morning at the CFI's house in Ickenham and I the drove CFI in his VW Beetle to WW. The only two instructors I flew with were McDouall (once) and Ginns, and once with a BEA Trident fleet training captain, Ward. Cannot remember if either McDouall or Ginns was CFI though (long time ago!). Next flying was Chipmunks on N Airfield at the Towers.