Chris, not much logic in those arguments I fear. I expended words to describe why they are NOT holes in the cheese as was clearly stated, and no mention of the pilots' layers being impervious. How did you infer that?
We accept responsibility as individuals, yes, but again I wasn't referring to that, as clearly stated. I was referring to the extraordinary reluctance on PPRuNe of accepting that accident pilots could have made cardinal error/s and finding a plethora of marginally connected extraneous events that could conceivably have had a minor bearing on the matter and using them to try to exonerate or ameliorate the pilot's actions. Its the elephant in the room syndrome and is present in almost every accident or incident topic on this forum.