John. You can have a go at me if you wish.
But I don't recall saying much about start height. I did agree it didn't make much difference if you made the gate. I did however question the airmanship of not caring about start height.
Why did I assume role erect would be carried out at slow speed. I didn't. I cautioned against doing so.
Why did I assume it would be carried out at the apex of the manoeuvre. I didn't. Didn't say so either. You should read what I posted.
Why did I assume the low speed of any gate manoevure would be close to the stall speed. I didn't. I don't know where you think I said that.
I did however ask the question of whether the speed close to the top of the manoeuvre performed by the Hunter as published by the AAIB was a speed at which it would be possible to roll erect.