Originally Posted by
Capn Bloggs
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The Flight Crew Training Manual (FCTM) on standard radio communications phraseology requires pilots to articulate both passing altitude and assigned altitude in their initial contact..
This is standard RT practice anyway, without the FCTM, should have been learnt at basic flight school.
Not with this phraseology, at least not when the SID has a published top altitude. See page 5 of:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/afs/afs400/afs470/pbn/media/rnav1_rnp1_rnav2/climb_descend_via_faq.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiVscL6vbLJAhUM6iYKHTuTA 8IQFggjMAM&usg=AFQjCNHoZC0J_hxUFpcUudCIwfdeW_EUKw&sig2=lHcPC bGJ0aA9X3MR9Wx9Og
Which is why the crew's error was not detected by ATC until they busted the published top altitude.
Seems that this sort of error is inevitable if the crew are not familiar with the phraseology AND don't read the chart thoroughly. That it doesn't happen more frequently begs the question 'why this particular crew?' (no slander intended).