By the time of our first VC10 flight my brother and I were well used to 707s and DC8s. Leaving London and sitting in the back row the take off angle was dramatically steeper than any previous plane, all part of the thrill of these magnificent planes. I was in the aisle seat and it felt that I was looking up at 45º to the flight deck whose curtains (
pr 9/11!) were open enough to see in.