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Old 25th Nov 2015, 11:58
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Postman Plod
 
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I'd disagree that the Belgrano comment is apt in the other direction. There is no state of war or conflict, or potential state of war or conflict between Turkey and Russia. In fact, is there one between Turkey and Syria?? There would be no reasonable expectation that Russian (or in fact Syrian) forces would be attacking Turkey, so using force seems disproportionate - other than an airspace incursion, there was no threat.

This could, and should, have been handled through further diplomatic action. Pussyish "Western" response? Yeh, well I guess the Western response would be to avoid conflict, rather than try to find any and every excuse to get ourselves into an all out war!

Which leads on to the fact that, just as it seemed everyone was finally getting on the same page with regards to CystISIS, just as East and West find some common ground, something monumentally stupid happens to push everyone even further apart. Almost as if some people want conflict...
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