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Old 8th Nov 2015, 22:02
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it almost appears that it could have 'peeled' off, front to back
RE MY A) scenario being unlikely. First I'll admit its like trying to pick flyspecks out of the pepper- but I'll try a simple explanation

While in your car at 30 to 50 mph stick your hand out the window- hold your palm down and level with the road ( horizontal )- you will note not much effort.

ADDED ; Note that structural tests of wings and HS essentially bend wings and HS 'up" until top surface fails- buckles under compression loads near or between ribs . For a fore and aft failure- possible perhaps with major overspeed as in a full bore dive - but available data does not seem to support that.

see for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2HmvAXcU0

I was at that test- and heard the detailed explanation of failure point- which was within a few inches of predicted and in buckling of the upper skin ...
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Now tilt your hand palm up slightly- more effort to hold palm steady- as you rotate your hand towards palm forward 90 degrees to pavement , the effort to hold in place becomes significantly larger. [at 400 mph or so- you would probably break your wrist }

As of now- it is not obvious from avail photos as to how the front spar of the wing (HS) broke. If we assume it under the A) scenario, the fracture would likely be a tension failure as the front spar was bent back. almost ditto form the rear spar/or hinge.

If under B) fold up or down or somewhere in between, the tear would generally be from bottom up or top down.

That is why a close exam of the failure points to a degree we do not have available from photos is needed.

But a clue may well be in how the moveable shield seems to have broken which ** seems ** to be in an upward position as shown by the carbon fiber sgtrings being bent up ( or maybe by the way it impacted )

Thats about as close as I can come absent more detailed photos ( unlikely) or good shots of jackscrew position and breaking of pivot points.


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