That video is pretty obviously not real or not from this incident. The angles are all wrong for that height, the poor quality is telling of a CGI mock up, the explosion is totally bizarre in its nature, smoke a bit strange how it starts straight away so thickly (think about it) and going by the debris alone, no way it would be such a large fireball, it would show up on any rear part of the aircraft in fire damage and soot. It looks like an iPhone filming a tv screen going by the landscape to then portrait change in the second clip.
In such a desolate area a small shockwave & ir signature would be picked up by the US/Israelis. So it shouldn't be assumed it was a big explosion that they detected and we already know it wouldn't need to be to bring down a pressurised airliner.
Also the bodies examined have shown no evidence of explosion, evidence of death by fireball or anything suggesting a terror attack. No residue either.
The bomb would have had to been pretty small to not be picked up on even the most lax security checks. Unless.. rumours of it being baggage/loading staff themselves.. But until any media confirm this it is all speculation.
Then there is the issue of how would ISIL know exactly where the plane would be, even using FR24 which is far from accurate in real time or a small route change or anything really and they would be too far away to see. Even if it were real, which it isn't. The folk filming could have easily been the first on scene way before any military or the like to take advantage of that, seing the reports of 20 miles from incident to impact and took images of the crash site to use as propaganda.. Strangely they have not.
No positive on explosive residue as of yet so even talking about a bomb is still hypothetical. Just because David Cameron says it may have been doesn't mean much.
British, Egyptian, Russian and USA air investigator experts have been there testing, nothing about there being bomb residue or fireball damage released. Shrapnel could easily be from in air fuel explosions ie wings detaching or plane parts raining down after initial impact.
Has a passenger list and with nationalities been released yet? It was quickly after the Malaysian incidents.
Last edited by Silver Pegasus; 6th Nov 2015 at 21:17.