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Old 6th Nov 2015, 16:33
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Devils advocate

Wreckage....

Tail is totally seperate...a distinctly "unzipped" look about it across the top of the fuselage...majority of the rudder and at least one stabiliser AWOL...what has been found landed right way up apart from the very end part with the APU that seems to be on its side with APU doors open

Fuselage & wings.....pretty much together, burned wings and middle/aft fuselage...but upside down

Things that jump out as "erm...what the heck?"

Luggage...bearing in mind the fuselage is burned around 66% of its length, there is alot of intact and soot free luggage...with zipped cases still zipped up and no real "crash/bash/burn" damage

Seats...again...bearing in mind the amount of fuselage lost to fire...which probably happened upon impact due to the plane having loaded tanks....on the whole the seats are not in too bad shape...bloodied, dusty, torn...but nothing more than would be expected after a crash

Bodies...autopy results pointing at burns...well there was a fire, so bodies would be burned....BUT...so far no reports of sooting in the lungs, which would be the case in the inflight fire scenario...people breathing in soot, sits on lungs and they succumb....no confirmed lung sooting as yet.....so til that is confirmed, we are likely looking at post impact with ground fire and not midair fire

Historical damage...the plane had a 3 month repair period after a severe tailstrike in Cairo 2001...what do we KNOW about that repair, who did it, were they qualified etc (remember JAL123 had her tail repaired by Boeing in Haneda in 1978 only for that "official" repair to fail in 1985) so an "official" repair is by no means a good repair

Internals....jackscrew etc....going back to the tailstrike...is it possible that during the strike repair that damage was overlooked/missed...of course it is, engineers are only human and can easily miss things that they are not actually looking for

China Airlines 611...she had nicotine stains for years on her tail after the tailstrike repair, she was serviced/maintained/resprayed...no-one questions where those nicotine stains came from...they were missed and as it turned out, they might have saved lives had they been noticed and investigated

Could this be foul play...well yes...but by now and with the amount of media scrutiny, let alone political scrutiny, any trace of explosive residue found would be screaming across every headline from here to mars by now...(remember TWA800...FBI spokesman.."it was a missile"...then they calmed down, stopped jumping to conclusions and discovered it was a tiny design flaw)

Egyptian investigations...can we really get the truth....I don't know...EgyptAir 990 showed tht they really cannot cope well with taking the blame...and now we have a possible scenario of blame plus loss of tourism...with the best will in the world they stand to lose massively if this really was foul play,,,so for now, jury is out til they can prove to be impartial

So...what are we left with....a Rubik's cube of a plane mystery, 224 people snuffed out before their time.....my money, not that its worth alot...still goes with that tailstrike...that tail and the repair and the fact the plane was a charter baby always chopping and changing operators which will inevitably mean some maintenance records accidently go walkies and a tailstrike in 2001 that no-one really knows much about (which would be my interpretation of the airline's "external" impact cos they did not use the plane back then)

These poor people suffered a similar event to that of JAL 123 and China 611 in that a poor repair several years before caught up with them and the only explosion was the explosive decompression when that tail went...and the toddler was likely in the back toilet having a nappy change cos babies usually poo when the plane is taking off...seriously, they do
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