Wiggy those are frankly pathetic excuses to normalise what has become rank apathy amongst the pilot body as a whole. Name one occasion where senior colleagues have stood up for new entrants? We see reduced terms across the board for new entrants meanwhile those higher up the ladder mainly refuse to take their medicine as well. The I'm alright jack mentality is capitalised on by management at times of recession and unfortunately we have all been guilty of being gullible to the threat of the axe falling. I say this while working for a European "legacy carrier" for past few years and been involved in arguing for improvements within my own union