Re#13 thanks Chevron for the info, didn't realise about the small groups in Tower and aircraft. Much encouraged by that and a week in a control tower while on Annnual camp as an ATC cadet, what a brilliant idea by someone to give senior cadets the whole week in an area they were interested in, it certainly convinced me and I have subsequently completed a really interesting career as an ATCO In both mil and civil since 1976 and am still currently an ATCO. I have never regretted making this career choice I can still get up at 0430 quite happily to go to work because it's so interesting!