Ignition'. .. .That's great stuff indeed, exactly what I wanted.. .Thanks a lot for your time.. .One more thing if you don't mind <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .. .Could you give me some figures for typical takeoff and landing speeds for the average day at sea level assuming max, medium or minimum weight, whichever is handy for you.. .. .Thanks again and all the best to you.. .. .Skip.. .. .As you slide down the banister of life, may all the splinters point the right way.