So apart from silly one upmanship about using a term. Are we saying that sure, we ca have the bits and bobs manufactured wherever and put them together ourselves. But that isn't really what I was asking. My point was can we still fully design an aircraft suited entirely to our own needs and bring the project to fruition? It doesn't much matter who made what, the point is the French and Swedes both did it. Russia does it. Can we and more to the point should we? We are an island and the thought of running out of bits or having a foreign country veto our use of it in our national interests is what interests me.