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Old 24th Aug 2015, 08:25
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rnzoli
 
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Originally Posted by Mach Jump
you should be able to hold the nosewheel off until well after the mainwheels have touched.
That looks more like the short/rough field landing process to me, but actually I would like to get as close as possible to that, otherwise I am not confident landing onto grass fields yet.

At the same time, I am not sure elevator authority is enough for keeping the nose wheel in the air after touch down. We did some of those landings during conversion training, stick full aft (literally in my stomach) at touchdown, yet the center of gravity pushed the nose down around the main wheels acting as rotation points. So instead of rolling with nose wheel in the air, the goal was to unload the nose wheel as far as possible during the landing roll.

Originally Posted by Mach Jump
The Katana stall waning horns are notoriously pessimistic, and can't easily be adjusted.
Good point, quite true. It often sounds during take-off rotation as well.

Originally Posted by Flyingmac
Flat landing. Rubbish.
I am entering the company-approved flogging room now

Originally Posted by Tarq57
Need to hold off a bit longer. I get the impression the approach speed over the threshold may have been a few knots higher than optimal.
The speed was supposed to be OK. The last glance I took before round-out was 60 KIAS. The operator trains beginners for a 70 KIAS approach (wind-shear, turbulence etc.), and conversion training (for non-beginners) aims for 65 KIAS. POH DV20 KATANA 100 says 60 kts, so the speed was even lower than what we are taught to target.

It's the holding off, which could have been longer indeed. As the nose started to rise, I heard the stall warning horn, and also sensed we started to climb/balloon, so I stopped pulling more and the a/c settled down on the runway. But I don't see ANY climb on the video recording, the main gears flew completely level with the runway. So maybe I just have to anticipate that in the nose-up attitude, I sit slightly higher up above the runway, without actually climbing.

Originally Posted by piperboy84
try setting the power for a 500fpm descent then diligently NOT changing the power again till the flare
Also a good idea, but we are instructed to deploy landing flaps only when being sure about reaching the threshold even in case of engine failure. So in fact, when we deploy landing flaps, we also cut the throttle and "dive" to the threshold. Got to get a good grip on this type of landing, as I would like to visit shorter and rougher landing fields than the ones in the videos.
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