Just to clear up the acronyms (particularly for the more mature readers), TALCE was the next generation JAOC. The latter was predominantly stood up when we had the airborne exercises with 5AB or 16AAB. Initially the RAF side was manned by personnel unable to fly on the exercise, whereas the Army had a permanent staff (including a totally hatstand major!). After 2 such exercises in close proximity, I made the unwise suggestion that we did the same as the army for continuity purposes, leaving the same staff in JAOC for a year. Yet another crap idea I had!!! On one exercise the 38 gp Tac At W/C turned up and announced he was unhappy with what we were telling the Army what JAOC stood for (just another ops cockup ) so he was changing the name to TALCE . His spots were in danger of exploding when after approx 40 seconds we informed the 7RHA boss that stood for "totally apathetic loadmasters controlling everything" . Explanation done, now back to the stories please!