Sorry Lyneham Lad but I stopped listening after all three participants in the 'discussion', including the chairman, immediately agreed that the "fancy-named" Lightning II was "...one of the worst weapons systems an American company has ever devised", everyone who has flown it hates it and the gun doesn't work.
Hardly a balanced or factual discussion. At least the podcast had the good grace to forewarn that the opinions expressed were those of the participants, not Reuters itself.